Upon Further Inspection
Upon Further Inspection, the mechanical integrity podcast, uses engaging interviews to celebrate the people, stories, and real-world industrial reliability experiences.
Every episode explores topics that matter most to professionals in oil & gas, refining, petrochemical, and other process industries. Through in-depth conversations with industry experts, we discuss themes like continuous improvement, safety, technology advancements, compliance, risk-based inspection, and professional growth.
Upon Further Inspection
We're Not in the Business of Making Cookies (featuring Terry McLane)
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In this episode, we sit down with Terry McLane, a veteran refinery inspector with over 44 years of experience. Terry shares his journey from a plumbing and pipefitting apprentice into refinery maintenance contractor, and ultimately into a full-time career as an inspector. Terry speaks to the value of professional certifications and reflects on his 15 years contributing to API's Individual Certification Program (ICP), where he develops and reviews exam questions with a focus on fairness and practical relevance to the industry.
This episode is really focused on how to build strong inspectors. Terry outlines a development path rooted in NDT fundamentals, radiographic film interpretation, welding inspection, and a progressive approach to certifications — always tailored to the individual's strengths and interests. He emphasizes that a solid grounding in metallurgy and damage mechanisms is non-negotiable, and that newer technologies like phased-array UT and Risk-Based Inspection (RBI) are reshaping what inspectors need to know.
Terry also shares several field experiences that illustrate the real-world stakes of inspection work, including cases involving hydrogen blistering severe enough to require vessel replacement, and a situation where he exercised his authority to shut down an FCC unit after identifying a critical integrity concern on a reactor riser line.
Part 2 of our interview with Terry will be published on June 25 – subscribe to our podcast to be notified when the next episode is published.
00:37 Plumber to Refinery
02:58 Work Ethic Lessons
03:38 Switching to Inspection
05:36 AI Exam vs API Tests
07:30 Why Certifications Matter
08:09 Inside the ICP
09:13 Fair Test Questions
13:01 Training New Inspectors
15:55 Metallurgy in the Field
18:06 Learning from Old Timers
19:09 Old-School UT Stories
21:16 Tools vs Operator Skill
21:22 High Temp UT Technique
22:07 Telltale Holes Explained
26:28 Hydrogen Blister Horror Story
28:25 Inspection Tech Evolution
32:10 FCC Inspector Prestige
35:48 Regulators and Audits
38:40 Shutdown Authority Story
Episode Acronyms & Abbreviations
API – American Petroleum Institute
API 510 – Pressure Vessel Inspection Code
API 570 – Piping Inspection Code
API 580 – Elements of a Risk-based Inspection (RBI) program
API 650 – Welded Tanks for Oil Storage
API 653 – Tank Inspection, Repair, Alteration, and Reconstruction
CWI – Certified Welding Instructor
EPA – Environmental Protection Agency (US Government Agency)
FCC – Fluid Catalytic Cracking
ICP – Individual Certification Program (API)
ITEP – Industrial Tax Exemption Program
National Board – refers to the National Board of Boiler & Pressure Vessel, Pressure Equipment Inspector Certification Program
NDT – Non-destructive Testing
OSHA - Occupational Safety and Health Administration
PAUT – Phased Array Ultrasonic Testing
PTFE – Polytetrafluoroethylene coating
RBI – Risk-based Inspection
UT – Ultrasonic Testing
VPP – Voluntary Protection Plan
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